4POS 32 & 64 bit Upgrades

[Admin]

STOP! This is only for customers that are running the latest - After 18.3 version! If you are running ANY other version - Run the NEW installer first! Click here : http://www.4pos.co.za/support/index.php/topic,931.0.html

Although this post is not being updated - we are DAILY adding features to the 4POS Software for the Independently Minded Retailer!

We spend millions per year on development.

You can only run 4POSSqlEXEUpgrades if you are already running version 18.3 or later!! (This is only the upgrades of the NEW 4POS 18.3 EXE upgrades & not the conversion!)

If your Anti-virus is blocking the download or the upgrade, disable the protection for 1 hour. Then download & run the upgrade. Once the upgrade is done, you are welcome to scan the 4POS & 4POSServer folder to double check.

We simply cant make it ANY easier!

Download Now!

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4POS Version 25.10.4

4POS 25.10.4 (24/10/2025)

1. 4POSAppcontroller improved for customers with same names
2. 4POSBackoffice - Promotions fixed to not revert to default selling price on edit
3. 4POSScan improved to print payment names from translation table (Multi-language) rather than hard coded
4. When using 4POSBackoffice to replicate an item - eCommerce setting & Additional notes also replicated


4POS 25.10.3 (17/10/2025)

1. Improvements on 4POSTouch :
1.1. Lagging (waiting) on logout if used with keyboard & mouse
1.2. Reprint refunds
1.3. Combos improved
2. 4POS eCommerce interface improved with automatic emails, automatic upload of pricing
3. 4POSScan - combos improved
4. 4POSBackoffice improvements :
4.1. All reports now has the ability to export directly to excel! Wow!
4.2. 4POSEnterprise upload / download improved
4.3. 4POS Accounts(Debtors) & Suppliers (Creditors) now allows selection to show records with balances and/or with transactions in last period
4.4. 4POS Account export now includes mobile & emails

4POS 25.8.2 (27/08/2024)

1. Fixed bug in 4POS Increment maintenance
2. Improved 4POS Enterprise
3. Improved 4POSTouch with auto logoff set
4. Improved 4POSScan with wup interface & A4 set
5. Improved 4POSBackup to validate backup files
6. Improved Order process when "Sort Stock items on order Alphabetically" sequence is selected under general parameters
7. As point 7 but with GRV as well
8. On finalising a quote - the date on which it is finalised will be used & not the date the quote was created.
9. Fixed - GRV ability to capture fractions on items that has been marked as fractions allowed


4POS 25.8.1 (18/08/2024)

1. Fixed issues with 4POSScan dll's not allowing printing
2. Improved 4POS eCommerce automation
3. Improved 4POSTouch updating prices


4POS 25.7.2 (24/07/2024)

1. Upgraded Airtime security...
2. Notes field made bigger
3. Extended description field added to cater for new 4POS eCommerce (https://4pos.co.za/4pos-ecommerce.htm)
4. 4POS eCommerce upload of barcode, shrinks, description, extended description, prices per shrink added
5. 4POS eCommerce download of sale invoices added to be done automatically & Invoices printed, picking slips printed & invoices mailed to customer.
6. 4POS GRV description column size added under General Parameters - (NEXT page)
7. 4POS barcode printing added on General parameters to select 4POS Internal Label designer or original with a selection of default label.
8. Automatically fix of Unicode UTF-8 added (Must be disabled on all pc's)
9. 4POSBackup improved for Win11.
10. Big one... Combo items added.... You can now create a combo for multiple items & 4POSScan will be able to detect that it is part of a combo & charge the appropriate price.
      (Eg. Combo can be configured for 1 x Brandy, 1 x 2L coke, 1 x Chips selling as a combo for R99.99...
       Currently only works for 1 item of each.)
11. Option added to import extended description from a Excel file (Not csv)
12. 4POS eCommerce registrations now available. We will select some customers so we can work with them to get eCommerce store up & running properly.
13. Product performance on previous month end reports fixed
14. New API's loaded to allow proper update of customer versions to 4POS Cloud...

4POS 25.6.1 (03/06/2024)

1. Added case lots to Amend stock list
2. Under amend stock - History - you can now double click to open the GRV or Sales Invoice (A4 format)
3. Label Printing direct from GRV & Amend stock improved with default printer & default label configured under Store Setup - general parameters.
4. General Parameters now on 2 pages (Back / Next)
5. Vouchers used printing on A4 invoices improved
6. 4POSBackup improved to check for valid path & if 4POSBackup is available
7. 4POSTouch improved if you have less than 10 items (Better for our fuel sales customers)


4POS 25.5.1 (27/05/2024)

1. Layby bug fixed when finalising a layby payment with Credit Card
2. General parameters screen improved with next page
3. Bug fixed on 4POSEnterprise not uploading the product performance to the enterprise cloud
4. Bug fixed on 4POS Stock take app on Apple devices
5. Addpay settings in manual explained
6. In general parameters, you can now select your barcode printer & also which label design you use. (Makes it easier to print labels direct from Stock edit)

4POS 25.4.1 (17/04/2024)

1. 4POSBackoffice now opening faster
2. 4POS GRV fixed for products with VAT & VAT Exempt items
3. New Addpay credit Card Interface added & implemented
4. On Debtors (Accounts) new Marketing & Distribution groups added so you can filter & email /wup easier...
5. Improved Send promotion WUP to also include option for email from text file or HTML Text file (You can use https://text-html.com/)



4POS 25.1.4 (24/03/2024)

1. Major changes & improvements to 4POS Kitchen Monitor (KDS)
2. Layby Bug fixed.
3. Layby default settings added to POS Parameters.
4. New! 4POS Replicate option added to Stock Create Edit. (edit an existing item then replicate to create a duplicate... Nifty!)

4POS 25.1.2 (11/02/2024)

1. Improved methods of upgrades. If a POS pc is not available at time of upgrade, 4POS will record the POS terminal & copy the upgrade from the controller to the POS when available.
2. Minor changes in 4POSTouch re Cash sales vs Table sales.
3. 4POSBackoffice search on Stock Credit / edit improved
4. 4POSKitchen Monitor improved

4POS 25.1.1 (24/01/2024)

1. All new shortcuts & icons
2. Some changes done in 4POSScan to speed up updating of the data when you use 4POS Learning mode
3. 4POSTouch improved if you use it for cash sales & table to stop duplication on "Table" numbers

[Admin]

So lots of aggravation, threats etc about the upgrades so let us try to put things in perspective :

From a Customer :

I don’t want the update, because 4pos alway works perfectly without update.  Could you please teach me to disable the automatic update option. 
Regards frank


Our reply :

We are not going to disable the upgrade options as we are improving on functionality….

For example, some of our customers are now reaching the magical number of 32,878 GRV’s in their database so we had to change that.

You will possibly also get an error in the future due to that. Without the upgrade you will email & we would not know what version you are running & whether an issue has been resolved….

So, 20 emails later we will simply tell you to upgrade….

So, no change…

We have customers that run versions from 2002, 2007 etc. Every day we receive emails with “errors” then to find out that it is an issue that was resolved years ago!

Can you imagine how many thousands of times we had to do a "repair" on an old MsAccess database? We have given - free of charge - a MsSql database as part of 4POS.

Any tech can testify that this is a MAJOR improvement...

[Admin]

Question from a customer :

I have not been able to do any database repair after your last login? When I want to do it by the maintenance i get this error when I want to go in.after ok, i do the data repair but  nothing pops up after, no database repair done or anything. I want to do a repair, I keep getting errors on the controller.

Answer :

Your system is now running a Microsoft Sequel database & no longer a Microsoft access database so 4POSMaintenance no longer works.

If you are getting errors on your 4POSController that refers to MsSql problems, it is most likely due to the Mssql “service” that has stopped.

This is often due to your computer going to sleep or the HDD that has gone to sleep. (Ensure your power management is totally turned off - in fact go into advanced & check all the options especially for HDD)

1.   Restart your PC
2.   Open the 4POSBackoffice to ensure the Sql service is running (The 4POSBackoffice will force the service to restart)
3.   Open the Controller
4.   If that still fails – (which I doubt) : Control panel – administrative tools – services – go to Sql Server 2012 & restart.

[Admin]

4POS Version 18.10.2

Release dd 11/10/2018

Bug fix uploaded for error on GRV.....

1. Gp% included whilst doing GRV (GRV Template must be modified)
2. Notes on Stock Item added
3. GRV now shows notes added in #2 here...
4. Negative Deposit report shows all warehouse or only selected...
5. Deposit transfeer wizard between warehouses fixed.
6. Changes made in controller to accommodate airtime sales when "Quick Cashup" selected.
7. Changes made to 4POSTouch for customers using scale items with weights & at the same time using Touch buttons.
8. 4POSTouch - finalise a sale error on accounts when printing before the finalisation total.
9. Product performance by Promotion added
10. Declaration report fixed not to include Account sales in total.
11. 4POSScan pole display now closes on exit.

[Admin]

Teamviewer chat transcript for a PAID Teamviewer session :


Support4POS (12:23 PM):
Are you there?
@Scrapbooking (12:23 PM):
yes
Support4POS (12:24 PM):
Let me show you how the error happens...
So, 4POS is saying that the controller version is different from backoffice....
Let check
Lets...
4POSBackoffice dated 12/10/2018
4POSController dated 05/02/2018
That is the issue!
Now, go to 4POSUpgrade & run 4POSSqlEXEUpgrades.exe while all 4POS programs are closed
No 4POS programs...
Clearly states that do not change the folder....
BUT, yours is showing c:\cd4pos....
Now, test
As you can see all working...
Anything else?
@Scrapbooking (12:32 PM):
i can not befieve it, i think get so upset and angry that i miss read and did not pay attention.
Support4POS (12:32 PM):
I think it is a trust issue....
Customers think we do it on purpose to make it difficult & as you can see - very simple
@Scrapbooking (12:34 PM):
Thanks, think I will be able to update sales
Support4POS (12:34 PM):
Yes...
Doing some cleaning up...
Support4POS (12:47 PM):
Oops - your database has been wiped out...
You did a repair or reinstall?
@Scrapbooking (12:48 PM):
did a repair
Support4POS (12:48 PM):
What was the last date that everything worked?
Looks like the 5th of October?
@Scrapbooking (12:50 PM):
that correct and on the 8th in the morning i was promped to do the update
Support4POS (12:50 PM):
ok - lets recover the backup
No backups on the 5th
Trying the first backup on the 13th...
@Scrapbooking (12:52 PM):
no last was the 29 sept the rest i am not sure
Support4POS (12:52 PM):
Lets see the 13th first
@Scrapbooking (12:52 PM):
ok
Support4POS (12:52 PM):
23 months in that backup...
So on the 13th already reloaded / wiped the database - showing 4pos demo...
Lets try the 29th...
Support4POS (12:59 PM):
No data showing for the 29th backup
This backups was done AFTER monthend
Trying 26th...
Support4POS (01:14 PM):
Ok, so the backup on the 26th is ok
Transactions for the 27th & 29 is there so we can recoveer them
Can we do it as 1 dayend?
@Scrapbooking (01:14 PM):
thanks, yes
Support4POS (01:14 PM):
1 sec
Support4POS (01:18 PM):
Your backup folder does not exist as shown on screen - that is why no backups are done automatically!
Do not change the folder...
backup has been set to F: but no F: drive on your pc....
Changing to c:\4pos...
Support4POS (01:24 PM):
Ok - all transactions recovered, backup fixed & monthend done...
Now recovering transactions for October
Support4POS (01:31 PM):
All done
Transactions up the 5th recovered & dayend done.
You need to capture invoices from the 5th.
Bear in mind that all products created, price changes done etc since the 26th (Backup recovered) will need to be re-done
@Scrapbooking (01:32 PM):
thank you,
Ok got that, just to be clear i have to do a back up to external say once a week just to be safe
Support4POS (01:34 PM):
Yes, you can do that manually by copying c:\4pos\backup to your external drive
ok?
@Scrapbooking (01:35 PM):
ok will do so and in future I wil READ AND RE READ the file description, and not ASUME that it is correct in the first place
Support4POS (01:35 PM):
:-)
last suggestion - when you have an issue - relax & dont start doing all sorts of steps...
Enjoy!

teamviewer session Ended 13h37

[Admin]

Version 18.11.1

4POS Promotion changes done - Thank you Werner!

1. 4POS Promotions now shows you the List Cost & GP% for the standard & promotional pricing. Allows you to ensure that you still make a profit!
2. 4POS Promotion report added to show the GP% for a specific promotion that you ran - the sales figures & GP% achieved...
3. 4POSUpgrades now fully automated - no more selecting the wrong folder path & fights fights fights... (Sometimes we do listen......)
4. GRV pack size column increased
5. Stock item includes a "NOTES" column (255 characters) that you can use to highlight upcoming promotions from the suppliers or any other reminder...
6. These "NOTES" to appear on GRV screen & Order processing as well...
7. 4POS Name change emailer improved to retry 5 times for slow internet users...
8. 4POSBackOffice now will fix the regional settings automatically w.r.t. decimal point & digit grouping symbol...
9. 4POSInstaller now uses 4POSSql SP4 for NEW Win10 pc's - the previous version for sql did not work on brand new WIN10 pc's...
10. History of stock items fixed - weekly sales is now calculated based on dates ...
11. MAJOR fix : When doing a GRV on 1 pc - the database will be locked & other pc's not able to do Stock edits... Also errors on 4POSController due to this...
12. 4POSEnterprise - Inter Branch Stock transfer from 4POSScan fixed.
13. 4POSTouch fixed with cooking messages with MORE than 255 characters...
14. 4POSScan - total qty on receipt fixed w.r.t. weighed items. Any fraction items will now be counted as 1 & not as the weight.
15. Bill of materials will now test for circular reference - tot to bottle & bottle to tot...
16. 4POS Learning mode fixed for shrink items...
17. MAJOR fix : GRV's now also cater for GP% on screen - need to change your GRV Templates to incorporate it.
18. GRV templates can now be renamed & newly created...


Wow - many more small parts... Enjoy!

[Admin]

Version 18.11.2

4POS now sports some nice graphics...

1. Total sales & Sales graphs per sales Channel for the last 14 days... Simply click on daily Sales Chart... (See attachments)
    Also click on next page or print to see all...
2. Android Stock Take Import fixed.
3. Order to GRV sequence fixed.
4. 4POSEnterprise Interbranch transfer to GRV fixed
5. 4POSBackup improved by copying backup to 2nd POS (Other than localhost) copied in the event that the server crashes...
    If a standalone pc, backup also copied to 4POSSupport folder

[Admin]

 & Totals sales accross ALL sales channels.... Last 45 days per day...

[Admin]

Version 18.12.4

1. Auto backup if you have not done a backup in 7 days or more...
2. Suppliers Creditors now have field for email address... this allows for :
3. When creating an order, the order can be emailed directly to your supplier. Subject line : Purchase Order from YourCompanyName is attached
4. Accounts / Debtors Monthend statements now has a search & Select All option & also :
5. Caters for email to all Customers (Statement will be mailed using the 4POS mail settings (statements@4pos.co.za) & NOT dependant on your own email settings. Subject line will contain : Your Account Statement from YourCompanyName is attached.
6. Same applies to Previous month statements
7. Nomad credit card interface has been completed. Currently only customers with more than 3 POS terminals registered on 4POS will be prompted to register. This will send an email to Support & Nomad to start the registration process.
More info on : http://www.4pos.co.za/4pos-credit-card-interface.htm
8. 4POSTouch offline mode improved.
9. 4POSScan - Credit card interface done.
10. Import of Debtors, Creditors & Stock items from CSV added to Uitilities

21/12/2018 - last changes for the year of 2018...

11. Added an option to email dayend reports to selected email addresses... (Configure under Store setup - General parameters)

[Admin]

Happy new year...

Version 19.1.1 available...

Small improvements done on 18.12.4...

1. 4POSScan will now force Sales to account by email to be on A4 format.
2. 4POSBackoffice now forces all reports to A4 format & not dependent on default printer any more...
3. Debtor Mails now available to multiple emails : Simply concatenate the mails with a comma - eg : sales@customer.com, admin@customer.com, john@customer.com
4. Added 4POS Unsuppress option from the backoffice! You can now unsuppress all till points from the 4POSBackOffice without having to go to each till individually... Master password applies... dd##mm

[Admin]

Version 19.2.1 available...

1. Small changes done re Supplier emails - now catering for email1, email2 etc
2. Dayend emails also caters for multiple emails... If you only have 1 email to send it to - no need to add the same to the email list... It will pick it up from your company email...
3. GRV fixes done w.r.t. deleting a GRV & prices entered... (Thanks Rui)

[Admin]

Version 19.2.2

Selection on Stock Sets fixed...

[Admin]

Version 19.3.1

1. GRV process made faster if you have not selected GP% as part of your templates
2. 4POSTouch Icon on task bar fixed
3. 4POSController fixed to cater for backup running at same instance as update POS
4. Stock take value reports under Stock Take & Dashboard reports enhanced to allow selection of stock groups & warehouse. Also allows report at cost & retail (POS sales channel)

[Admin]

Version 19.4.1

1. Deposits deposits deposits! OLD bug - finally addressed.
    1.1. 4POS will now automatically adjust your dayend deposit figures to the stock quantity of your deposits.
    1.2. 4POS Dashboard now will show content value INCLUDING deposit value & show the correct deposits (Empties) that you have in stock.
2. Added option to disable warehouse & to ignore disabled warehouses when doing GRV or sales reports...
    Ensure that you have zeroised the stock quantities in warehouses BEFORE you disable them.
    Furthermore - dont simply go & create warehouses if you do not KNOW the implications!
3. Consignment stock bug fixed in 4POSScan.
4. Stock transfers from warehouse to warehouse also now includes deposit values - more accurate.
   

[Admin]

Version 19.4.2 release

1. Value reports now prints date period
2. 4POSTouch bug fixed on printing after cashing up a TABLE & Gratuity selected.